Palestinian Mothers, Gilad Atzmon, Kawther Salam on PTT

[mary <humdrum2 at libero.it>]

PTT is a little slower than usual due to summer and the things that brings about, but today features three new posts: 1) we inaugurate our newest feature, "Website of the Week", which presents Palestinian Mothers, 2) Gilad Atzmon on the Tel Aviv shooting at the Gay and Lesbian centre, 3) Kawther Salam confronts point by point one of the myriad Zionist attempts to "explain" how things are. Her responses are outstanding.

Palestinian Mothers

http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/08/03/palestinian-mothers/

By
Mary Rizzo
• Aug 3rd, 2009 at 20:50 • Category:
Newswire,
Palestine
, Website of
the
Week

Our journey visiting other sites can only start with one that is
truly innovative and quite unlike any other site on the web. It is a site
that I myself come back to when other tasks let up a bit (would visit
more frequently, but it does get addictive when I start talking to
friends there and then it becomes hard to break away, the internet
equivalent to a real trip back home), because it is a community to
recharge batteries with other people who are so interesting and talented,
that it is an honour to become their friends, and it is a place to make
acquaintance with others who are sincerely dedicated to the cause.
http://palestinian.ning.com is
the link for Palestinian Mothers, a network with a large number of active
members where discussion, education and friendship are three of the key
words. It is not a traditional information site, with all the content
inserted by an editorial group or a webmaster, but its content is created
by the members themselves, each able to make their own blog (the content
there can run into hundreds of pages each person) and add their own and
others' articles, videos, pictures and songs. This way, one gets to know
the other people on a more personal level, which in networking for
political causes is not limited to merely discussion, but to strategy and
action planning, and having this possibility can save a lot of misery and
can speed up a sense of trust and comraderie. It is a true space for
networking among supporters of the Palestinian cause, because of the
option of communicating either publicly or privately between members. It
is the first Ning I ever encountered, and the measuring stick by which
all other sites of this type are judged. I advise anyone who would like
to experience a deeper involvement in activism to first take a look
around and then consider joining and becoming part of the community.
Despite the name, approximately half the members are male and there are
many internationals as well.

I have asked a few questions to the founder and moderator of the site,
Iqbal Tamimi:

What is the focus of your website?

Human Rights of Palestinians especially from a point of view of
motherhood and with lots of emphasis on media and media manipulations and
the struggle of journalists working in Palestine.  

What kind of readership do you have in mind when assembling the
material? Include information about the frequency of updating, about the
sources you use, about the editorial or contributor staff if
any.

I write having in mind every individual who can read or have access
to my network, all backgrounds of all faiths and political affiliations.
I am trying to open a dialogue with the human regardless of his age group
or spirituality.

Updating is around the clock because the readers and the members are in
different time zones, there are always someone adding something or
commenting. 

The sources are different independent organisations, articles in leading
newspapers, bloggers’ contributions, You Tube videotapes, journalists
around the world especially from Palestine…. 

I do run the network alone, but the contributions of all the members made
it such a success. 

What are the aspects of your site that are the most representative as
well as the strong points of your site?

Focussing on what we have in common not what we differ about, Mothers
and their continuous struggle to keep their children safe regardless of
their age, whether they are babies or grown up politicians. 

Refusing to make differences in faith points of view interfere in our
quest to highlight the truth. 

The fact that struggle and war and oppression is demolition of
civilization and works of art and a wealth of literature, consuming the
efforts and the resources of many involved. 

Do you encourage discussion on your site in the form of comments and
if so, what can you say about the commenting on your site? 

Yes, we have healthy debates almost totally free non-censored, but I had
to eliminate a few members when they started to abuse the website for
things other than what it was established for. 

What are some of the posts that are the most important/memorable to
you? 

Many, especially the ones demanding the release of almost 11.000
Palestinian prisoners, especially women and children. My best are not
published, it's the interaction and exchange of private emails between me
and some women members who happen to be Israeli women living in my home
country. 

If you could describe your site in one or two sentences, how would you
do that? 

A virtual family home for all the exiled around the world.

Has your site ever had difficulties or been involved in any
controversies that you would care to mention?

When I started my network a few Google ads about dating appeared on
my main page because the service was then free. It took lots of
exchanging emails and phone calls with the help of my colleague Mr. Mike
Jempson from the committee of media ethics in UK and one of the main
pillars of the Exiled Journalist Network project to make the hosting
company understand how inappropriate that was, and requesting them to
remove those automated ads that appeared because we were focussing on
women’s rights and women’s issues under occupation. Funnily enough it
seems that the _expression_ of women is somehow connected on the internet
with dating and adult subjects. The Google ads funnily enough made my
website become filtered in Arab countries as something that was
unappropriate. I had to write to many authorities to resolve this
dispute. 

Is there anything you might like to add to the readers of Palestine
Think Tank? 

Yes, if I was paid for the amount of effort I sacrifice for this project
I would have became a wealthy woman, many people like myself are totally
committed to human rights missions all over the world, that they gave up
totally on anything else in their lives to help oppressed people. I hope
we have been successful in our efforts, or at least that we have been
able to spare one life. Now I have almost 700 members in my online
family, none of them like the other, but all of them carry the same
heart. My experience and other experiences like Palestine Think Tank are
a labour of love carried by women and for women and their children. I
work closely with the editor of Palestine Think Tank, my dearest friend
Mary Rizzo, day and night, we have overcome many obstacles together, and
I found that a Muslim Exiled Palestinian journalist and a Grandmother is
connected with a half Jewish half Italian art maniac woman with the same
umbilical cord feeding on the same ethical components. I hope one day we
will be able to meet in person before mother earth hugs one of us for
good.

Gilad Atzmon - Fake Jewish Tolerance vs Vile Israeli Aggression

http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/08/03/gilad-atzmon-fake-jewish-tolerance-vs-vile-israeli-aggression/

By
Gilad
Atzmon • Aug 3rd, 2009 at 19:45 • Category:
Analysis,

Gilad Atzmon,
Gilad's
Choice,
Israel,
Newswire,

Opinions and Letters,
Our
Authors,
War,
Zionism

How many times have we heard about Islam, Muslims and Arabs being
slammed for being reactionary on Gay Rights? How many times have we seen
political lobbies

mobilizing to address Gay Rights issues against Muslim and Arab
states and institutions?  Interestingly enough, it is actually in
the Jewish state where Gays are

murdered on the street. Two days ago in Tel Aviv, the Jewish
metropolis that insists upon regarding itself as an international
Gay
capital proved to be a pretty dangerous place for people who happen
to be homosexuals. 

 

In fact, the attack on the Gay community in Tel Aviv should not take us
by surprise. The Jewish state, in spite of its relentless effort to prove
otherwise, is one of the least tolerant places on this planet. It is
fuelled by hatred towards others and Otherness. Its politicians are
defined particularly by their level of cruelty towards
Palestinians.

 

As much as the Israelis do love to see themselves as being ‘tolerant and
liberal’, they hate their neighbors and would implement the most
murderous lethal tactics against them. At the end of the day, it
shouldn’t take us by a complete surprise that in a country that pours
white phosphorous on civilians and starves millions behind barbed wire,
some people develop deadly inclinations.

 

The Jewish state is founded on negation. It hates everything that fails
to be Jewish. It hates Arabs, it hates the Palestinians, it hates the
Goyim, it hates criticism, it hates Islam, it hates the Pope, it hates
Christianity. You name it, they hate it. As it happens, all it takes to
hate Gays is for someone out there to think that Gay is not Jewish
enough. And in fact it isn’t. It is as non-Jewish as much as democracy
and tolerance are totally foreign to the spirit of Jewishness. 

 

A list of prominent Israeli leaders rushed yesterday to promote the fake
notion of Jewish tolerance. Amongst them was opposition leader Tzipi
Livni who just eight month ago flattened Gaza directly over its
inhabitants. "We need to give strength to the child who comes to his
parents and says: 'I am gay,' or 'I am a lesbian;'
said
Livni. Seemingly, just eight months ago, the same Livni didn’t care
much about the hundreds of children that were slaughtered in a criminal
war she was enthusiastically pushing for. She appeared to not care much
about the thousands of kids who were severely injured and broken for
life. 

 

Another Israeli prominent
War
Criminal, the man who introduced WMDs to the region is no other than
President Shimon Peres. "The shocking murder in Tel Aviv last
night,” he said, “is the kind of murder that an enlightened and cultured
people cannot accept."  The man who prides himself as an
enlightened and cultured Jewish ambassador is actually personally
responsible for more Palestinian death and carnage than any other living
politician.

 

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, one of the least tolerant leaders ever
also had something to say about tolerance: “we are a democratic and
tolerant country and we must respect every person as he is." I can
only wish the Israeli PM would find the courage to listen to his own
words next time he

evicts Palestinians from their soil and dwellings.  

 

This is really the crux of the matter. Israel is only tolerant
symbolically. It is engaged solely in pseudo manifestations of
liberalism, it is a ‘kind of’ a democracy, it is ‘kind of’ an open
society, it is ‘kind of’ a broadminded society. The more it praises
itself for being tolerant and liberal, the more aggression is brewing
within. The more open it pretends to be, the more murderous it becomes
for real.

 

This may explain how it is that in such a ‘tolerant society’ 94% of the
population

supported the slaughter of the Palestinians in the last Israeli
campaign in Gaza. This may explain also how it is that in a ‘tolerant’
society, sightseers flocked to the Gaza border
to
 watch their army spreading death en masse.

 

The repellent duality between fake ‘tolerance’ and vile aggression is the
outcome of an unauthentic Jewish fictitious national fantasy.  A
fantasy that is grounded in mimicking some Western ideologies that are
totally foreign to Jewish ideology (religious and secular). Tolerance,
democracy and liberalism are foreign to Jewish political precepts which
are all racially orientated and supremacist to the bone.

 

For those who cannot see it yet, Zionist aggression is turning against
itself. Israel is imploding.

Kawther Salam - Confrontation with Eyal from Ben-Gurion Security

http://palestinethinktank.com/2009/08/03/kawther-salam-confrontation-with-eyal-from-ben-gurion-security/

By
Kawther
Salam • Aug 3rd, 2009 at 12:53 • Category:
Israel,
Newswire,

Opinions and Letters,
Palestine
,

Resistance,
Somoud: Arab
Voices of Resistance,
Zionism

I received a hateful comment from an Israeli calling himself “Eyal”,
which goes far beyond the usual hateful rubbish which these people write.
I wonder why “Eyal” from the Systems Security of the Israeli Airport
Authority (Ben-Gurion Airport) left a comment on my articles “Names and
Photos of the

Israeli War criminals”.

“Eyal” appears to be an employee at Ben-Gurion Airport, using the
office equipment to vent his anger at me.

Here is what “Eyal”, the Israeli working at Ben-Gurion Airport, left as a
comment on my blog. The poor man clearly has some problems writing
correct English. Under his comment which I quote below, follows my answer
to each point. (I left his comment without correction).

---

Eyal

only_4_me [at] walla [dot] com

192.115.177.215

Submitted on 2009/07/29 at 3:37pm

IP Information for 192.115.177.215

IP Location: Israel Airports Authority

address: Israel Airports Authority

address:  Ben Gurion Airport

address: Israel

phone: +972-3-9710785

fax-no: +972-3-9710939

Amazing! You live a dream world of lies.

1. Israel has knowingly returned the PLO from excile!

2. Israel gave the Palestinians A: territories, B: guns, C: Goverment.

3. Israel wanted them to flourish and have a state, even offered part of Jerusalem. Israel wanted peace!!

BUT!! Palestinians blasted themself in weddings, in civilians busses, purpusly killed childern, pregnant women and so on.

and even so:

4. Israel retreated by it’s own desicion from GAZA!! from ALL of Gaza!! evacuated tens of thousands of Israeli people which had clashed with them!! all this in order to have peace.

But palestinians fired even more rockets, handreds of rockets directly on citizens.

What would you like Israel to do? sit and let HAMAS after having back ALL of Gaza, fire rockets daily on it’s citizans for 8 more years?

HOW CAN YOU BE SO BLIND???

you just enjoy to immerse in your hate, not lifting your head for a second to see the truth.

---

My Answers:
I find it amazing how Israelis believe and live out their propaganda
lies, and how they want their victims to also believe these lies. How
does Eyal “think” that Israel gave us the Palestine???  

Israel allowed the Return of the PLO

1. Israel did not allow the return of PLO from the exile. The PLO was
established as a result of the Israeli theft of Palestine. Israel was
established as a state on the ruins of Palestinian towns and villages
after the Zionists murdered thousands of Palestinians and expelled over
750.000 more. The Zionists, or those who now call

themselves “Israelis” immigrated to Palestine illegally, using
falsified passports and working with the British Army. The mass murderer,
terrorist and war criminal of the Palmach organization, Alfred Chaim
Miller, stated as much in his speech in Vienna during past May 2009. He
described how he and his friends immigrated in 1938 to Palestine using
falsified passports, and how they occupied and stole Palestinian villages
and agricultural hills. This is but one example of how and when European
jews started with their theft of Palestine.

The return of the PLO is not an Israeli hand gift either. The
Palestinians are not Falasha (Ethiopian) Africans or Russian mafia.
According to many UN resolutions, all Palestinians have the rights of
return to our homeland. After the Oslo agreement and the return of some
Palestinians, Israel arrested many of PLO members who were not willing to
collaborate with the Israeli military system after their return.

2. Israel gave Palestinians:

A. Territories

Israel did not give us any territories. Palestine is our land, and in
fact the Zionists who now call themselves “Israel” stole Palestine in
1948 and again in 1967, and after Oslo agreement Israel cut the
territories into small ghettos, cantons, and some concentration camps,
and kept its military and the colonies of the Americans and Europeans and
the before unknown Falasha who invent that they are Jews occupying
Palestine. The territories agriculture land was stolen for increasing the
Jewish colonies in the territories. 

Never Israel gave us the Palestinians what they stole from us, and never
Israel will give us anything until another disaster or war explodes and
thousands of Jews and thousands of Palestinians die.

Israel is not a state and does not want Peace. Israel is a Zionist terrorist and criminal organization which fronts for other Zionist organizations, it is alternatively a criminal state of war criminals and psychopaths which threatens the security of not only the Palestinians and the neighboring countries, but of all the world. Just look how the Israelis are destroying the USA, sucking out all its wealth and using it for their own purposes.

B. Guns

The guns which the PA has received, the thugs and puppets of Israel and
USA, were given them to protect the Israeli security; for the purpose of
“internal use” between the Palestinians, such as the de-facto civil war
which the PA lost in Gaza; for arresting those Palestinians who resist
the diktat of the vampire Keith Dayton. Israel never accepted that the PA
use their guns to protect the Palestinian civilians during the criminal
Israeli military invasions of civilian homes, town, cities and villages.
Never did the PA security forces shoot one bullet against Israel. This is
a clear disaster and a conspiracy.

3. Government

What “Eyal” calls a Palestinian government is actually an illegal
“authority” which works with the Israeli and the American governments to
defend the so-called Israeli security.

The current PA is properly called a “Judenrat”, which is a group or institution acting under color of law and which allies itself with invaders to commit genocide against their own people.

As a Palestinian I would never accept a PA government under the Israeli occupation and without a fully independent State, power, authority, military army, borders, and the return for all the Palestinians who were expelled during the campaigns of terror of 1948, 1967 and later.

3. The Palestinian Flourish

What lies does this “Eyal” character write? What flourish and prosperity
does Israel want the Palestinian to live under their continued
occupation, military laws, checkpoints, daily murders, invasions,
arrests, hunger, and shortage of water? Why do the Israelis keep the
sources of the Palestinian water under their control? Why do the Israel
kept the economic and the borders under it’s power?

Do you know how many Palestinians, children, women, parliament members,

journalists are in the Israeli jails? Do you know how many
Palestinians are in jail under administrative arrest? Do you know many
women gave birth on the Israeli checkpoints in the territories? Do you
know how many sick persons died after Israelis denied them the right to
receive medical treatment? Do you know how many Palestinian civilian you
have murdered? Do you know how many Palestinians you have injured? Do you
know that the PA president needs permission from Israel during his
travels? Do you know how many Palestinian dunums the Israelis stole in
the territories? How many trees they uprooted? Do you know how many
millions Israel stole from the Palestinian tax payers? Do you know how
many Palestinian house you destroyed in the territories, and how many
Palestinians you have denied his a permission to build or repair a house?
Do you know how many disasters you created in Palestine?

Do you know how many bodies of Palestinians murdered by israelis are
still “jailed”, awaiting the end of their “sentences” to be returned to
their relatives? (Explanation: Palestinians accused by israelis of
“terrorism” and other scurriluous and trumped-up charges are either
murdered and then kept in secret vaults or graves for a period of time
which corresponds to a “sentence”, or, when Palestinians die in jail
before the end of their putative sentence, the bodies of Palestinians are
kept by the israeli authorities until the end of these sentences). One
example of such acts are two brothers from Ramallah, Emad and Adel Awad
Allah, who were murdered by the israelis during the peace time in
coordination with the PA. Their bodies are being held, or have been
disappeared, until this day. Do you know how many secret graves exist,
scattered around all of Palestine, for those murdered by the
israelis?

Do you know how many thousands of citizens from other Arab countries are
still incarcerated in Israel, people who were declared dead in the 1967
war, but who were actually abducted and incarcerated by israel? This is
but one disgusting example of how the Arab regimes collaborate with
israel.

Is this the “flourish” which Israel wants us to live? Is this the
Palestinian flourish which “Eyal” is talking about? “Eyal” can lie to
himself and to others, but not to me. I am a Palestinian and I know who
“Eyal” is and what mentality he has, I know what Israel gave us, and why
they gave it to us, and I know what they stole from us and kept for
themselves….

Jerusalem Offer

Which part of Jerusalem did the government of “Eyal” offer us? Is he
drunk, stupid, sick or just enjoying to lie? Abu Dis is not Jerusalem.
According to my information, Israel stole the agricultural land of
Bethlehem and added them to Jerusalem, and Israel wants to add half of
the territories to Jerusalem, among others the illegal Efrat settlement.
I also know that they ejected thousands and thousands of inhabitants from
Jerusalem in a typical israeli project of ethnic cleansing – this is
happening in East Jerusalem, which is supposed to become capital of
Palestine. This is the truth and reality of the european jews who call
themselves israelis and act under the banner of the criminal ideology of
zionism: because they are nothing and own nothing, they must steal
everything and murder everyone.

Again: Which part of Jerusalem did “Eyal” and his accomplices offer us
after they stole it: the part which is surrounded by the apartheid wall,
which does not even allow birds to fly over it, or the part which they
stole before and stacked with illegal immigrants from the US and
Europe?

Suicide Bombers

Does “Eyal” think that anyone who has had his father or his brother murdered, or both of them jailed, his house destroyed, who is subject to continued harassment, who has been jailed or made to live starvation, thirst and poverty, anyone who has had his hope and his feelings killed by Israel, anyone who wants to kill himself, that such a person will ask me or others for permission to explode himself? All the suicide bombers are victims of the Israeli occupation. Israel can’t plant terror, horror, occupation, injustice and achieve peace, security and love. Nobody likes the injustice of the occupation.

The Israelis must stop crying that they are the victims of the Palestinian suicide bombers, because they are not – they are perpetrators of horrific crimes, all of them. The real criminals who create the suicide bombers are Israeli military and their continued occupation. I don’t know how long Israel will continue corrupting it’s society and occupying Palestine. I see that 42 years of the Israeli occupation is more than enough. The Israeli occupation must stop, and then we will be able to talk about peace, on our terms.

4. Israel Retreated from Gaza

The Rockets of Hunger

Israel retreated by its own decision from GAZA, in order to turn it
into an extermination camp. That’s the truth. All what Israel did in Gaza
since before their strategic retreat is a clear and premeditated campaign
of genocide, war crimes, and crimes against humanity. The PA, who signed
the border agreement of Gaza, is a partner of the Israelis in their
genocide campaign against Gaza and all other Palestinians.

Would “Eyal” explain me why the Israeli engineers of genocide do not allow macaronis and tomato paste to enter Gaza? Has this dimwit ever heard that a nuclear bomb was made of tomato paste and macaronis? Is the Israeli security based on committing genocide and war crimes? Pressure causes explosions. The rockets of Gaza are the rockets of hunger, poverty, and depression. What Israel did in Gaza and is still doing is very obviously crimes which only mentally and morally depraved people can commit. Would Eyal be able to wake up and understand that?

I never loved the Israeli military occupation, but I also never
hated the Israeli civilians or the Jews.