Fw: Sensational: Privitization is really bankruptcy liquidation. Stiglitz: Most in-debt governments have signed secret agreements wherebythey sell off key public assets -- all corrupt world leadership keepsnational betrayal secret.

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> Cc: "AZ SEN. MCCAIN" <JOHN_McCAIN at McCAIN.senate.gov>
> Subject: [frameup] Privitization is really bankruptcy liquidation.
> Stiglitz: Most in-debt governments have signed secret agreements whereby
> they sell off key public assets -- all corrupt world leadership keeps
> national betrayal secret.
>
> "So what we found was this. We found inside these documents that basically
> they required nations to sign secret agreements, in which they agreed to
> sell off their key assets, in which they agreed to take economic steps
which
> are really devastating to the nations involved and if they didn't agree to
> these steps, there was an average for each nation that signed one-hundred
> and eleven items that they are required to sign on to. If they didn't
follow
> those steps they would be cut-off from all international borrowing. You
> can't borrow any money in the international marketplace. No one can
survive
> without borrowing, whether you are people or corporations or countries -
> without borrowing some money and having some credit and ..."
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>
> Transcript of Interview of Greg Palast, Journalist for BBC and Observer,
> London, by Alex Jones
> (Transcribed from tape by a listener.)
> Alex Jones Radio Show, Monday (PM), March 4, 2002
> _______________________________
> AJ: This is earth shattering. Can you break it down for us and tell us
what
> the economists have done?
> GP: Well, I'll tell you two things. One, I spoke to the former chief
> economist, Joe Stiglitz who was fired by the (World) Bank. So I, on BBC
and
> with Guardian, basically spent some time debriefing him. It was like one
of
> the scenes out of Mission Impossible, you know where the guy comes over
from
> the other side and you spend hours debriefing him. So I got the insight of
> what was happening at the World Bank. In addition, he did not brief me but
I
> got some other sources. He would not give me inside documents but other
> people handed me a giant stash of secret documents from the World Bank and
> the International Monetary Fund.
> AJ: So to insulate himself, somebody else did it.
> GP: No, I'm telling you. He wouldn't touch it but I really did get from
> completely independent sources a big stack of documents.
> AJ: Just like you got W199I, from the same folks we got it from.
> GP: And so one of the things that is happening is that, in fact, I was
suppo
> sed to be on CNN with the head of the World Bank Jim Wolfensen and he said
> he would not appear on CNN ever if they put me on. And so CNN did the
> craziest thing and pulled me off.
> AJ: So now they are threatening total boycott.
> GP: Yea right. So what we found was this. We found inside these documents
> that basically they required nations to sign secret agreements, in which
> they agreed to sell off their key assets, in which they agreed to take
> economic steps which are really devastating to the nations involved and if
> they didn't agree to these steps, there was an average for each nation
that
> signed one-hundred and eleven items that they are required to sign on to.
If
> they didn't follow those steps they would be cut-off from all
international
> borrowing. You can't borrow any money in the international marketplace. No
> one can survive without borrowing, whether you are people or corporations
or
> countries - without borrowing some money and having some credit and ...
> AJ: Because of the debt inflation pit they've created.
> GP: Yea, well, see one of the things that happened is that - we've got
> examples from, I've got inside documents recently from Argentina, the
secret
> Argentine plan. This is signed by Jim Wolfensen, the president of the
World
> Bank. By the way, just so you know, they are really upset with me that
I've
> got the documents, but they have not challenged the authenticity of the
> documents. First, they did. First they said those documents don't exist. I
> actually showed them on television. And cite some on the web, I actually
> have copies of some...
> AJ: Greg Palast dot com?
> GP: Yea, gregpalast.com. So then they backed off and said yea those
> documents are authentic but we are not going to discuss them with you and
we
> are going to keep you off the air anyway. So, that's that. But what they
> were saying is look, you take a country like Argentina, which is, you
know,
> in flames now. And it has had five presidents in five weeks because their
> economy is completely destroyed.
> AJ: Isn't it six now?
> GP: Yea, it's like the weekly president because they can't hold the nation
> together. And this happened because they started out in the end of the 80s
> with orders from the IMF and World Bank to sell-off all their assets,
public
> assets. I mean, things we wouldn't think of doing in the US, like selling
> off their water system.
> AJ: So they tax the people. They create big government and big government
> hands it off to the private IMF/World Bank. And when we get back, I want
to
> get to the four-parts that you elegantly lay out here where they actually
> pay off the politicians billions to their Swiss bank accounts to do this
> transfer.
> GP: That's right.
> AJ: This is like one of the biggest stories ever, Sir. I'm sorry, please
> continue.
> GP: So what's happening is - this is just one of them. And by the way,
it's
> not just anyone who gets a piece of the action. The water system of Buenos
> Aires was sold off for a song to a company called Enron. A pipeline was
sold
> off, that runs between Argentina and Chile, was sold off to a company
called
> Enron.
> AJ: And then the globalists blow out the Enron after transferring the
assets
> to another dummy corporation and then they just roll the theft items off.
> GP: You've got it. And by the way, you know why they moved the pipeline to
> Enron is that they got a call from somebody named George W. Bush in 1988.
> AJ: Unbelievable, Sir. Stay right there. We are talking to Greg Palast.
> BREAK
> AJ: We are talking to Greg Palast. He is an award-winning journalist, an
> American who has worked for the BBC, London Guardian, you name it, who has
> dropped just a massive bomb-shell on the Globalists and their criminal
> activity. There is no other word for it. You link through at
inforwars.com,
> you can link to his web site - gregpalast.com, or any of the other great
> reports he has been putting out. He now has the secret documents. We have
> seen the activity of the IMF/World Bank for years. They come in, pay off
> politicians to transfer the water systems, the railways, the telephone
> companies, the nationalized oil companies, gas stations - they then hand
it
> over to them for nothing. The Globalists pay them off individually,
billions
> a piece in Swiss bank accounts. And the plan is total slavery for the
entire
> population. Of course, Enron, as we told you was a dummy corporation for
> money laundering, drug money, you name it, from the other reporters we
have
> had on. It's just incredibly massive and hard to believe. But it is
actually
> happening. Greg Palast has now broken the story world-wide. He has
actually
> interviewed the former top World Bank economist. Continuing Sir with all
> these points.
> I mean for the average person out there, in a nutshell, what is the system
> you are exposing?
> GP: We are exposing that they are systematically tearing nations apart,
> whether it's Ecuador or Argentina. The problem is some of these bad ideas
> are drifting back into the U.S. In other words, they have run out of
places
> to bleed. And the problem is, this is the chief economist, this is not
some
> minor guy. By the way, a couple of months ago, after he was fired, he was
> given the Nobel Prize in Economics. So he is no fool. He told me, he went
> into countries where they were talking about privatizing and selling off
> these assets. And basically, they knew, they literally knew and turned the
> other way when it was understood that leaders of these countries and the
> chief ministers would salt away hundreds of millions of dollars.
> AJ: But it's not even privatization. They just steal it from the people
and
> hand it over to the IMF/World Bank.
> GP: They hand it over, generally to the cronies, like Citibank was very
big
> and grabbed half the Argentine banks. You've got British Petroleum
grabbing
> pipelines in Ecuador. I mentioned Enron grabbing water systems all over
the
> place. And the problem is that they are destroying these systems as well.
> You can't even get drinking water in Buenos Aires. I mean it is not just a
> question of the theft. You can't turn on the tap. It is more than someone
> getting rich at the public expense.
> AJ: And the IMF just got handed the Great Lakes. They have the sole
control
> over the water supply now. That's been in the Chicago Tribune.
> GP: Well the problem that we have is - look, the IMF and the World Bank is
> 51% owned by the United States Treasury. So the question becomes, what are
> we getting for the money that we put into there? And it looks like we are
> getting mayhem in several nations. Indonesia is in flames. He was telling
> me, the Chief Economist, Stiglitz, was telling me that he started
> questioning what was happening. You know, everywhere we go, every country
we
> end up meddling in, we destroy their economy and they end up in flames.
And
> he was saying that he questioned this and he got fired for it. But he was
> saying that they even kind of plan in the riots. They know that when they
> squeeze a country and destroy its economy, you are going to get riots in
the
> streets. And they say, well that's the IMF riot. In other words, because
you
> have riot, you lose. All the capital runs away from your country and that
> gives the opportunity for the IMF to then add more conditions.
> AJ: And that makes them even more desperate. So it is really an imperial
> economy war to implode countries and now they are doing it here with
Enron.
> They are getting so greedy - they are preparing it for this country.
> GP: I've just been talking to, out in California just yesterday, from here
> in Paris, the chief investigators of Enron for the State of California.
They
> are telling me some of the games these guys are playing. No one is
watching
> that. It's not just the stockholders that
> got ripped off. They sucked millions, billions of dollars out of the
public
> pocket in Texas and California in particular.
> AJ: Where are the assets? See, everybody says there are no assets left
since
> Enron was a dummy corporation - from the experts I've had on and they
> transferred all those assets to other corporations and banks.
> GP: Well yea, this stuff has really gone just like a three-card Monty
game.
> I mean remember that there is money at the bottom. You did pay
California's
> electric bills according to the investigations, they are telling me that
> they were pumped up unnecessarily by 9 to 12 billion dollars. And I don't
> know who they are going to get it back from now.
> AJ: Well they actually caught the Governor buying it for $137 per megawatt
> and selling it back to Enron for $1 per megawatt and doing it over and
over
> and over again.
> GP: Yea, the system has gotten completely out of control and these guys
knew
> exactly what was happening. Well, you have to understand that some of the
> guys who designed the system in California for deregulation then went to
> work for Enron right after. In fact, here I'm in London right now and we
> have, the British has some responsibility here. The guy who was on the
audit
> committee of Enron, Lord Wakeham. And this guy is a real piece of work,
> there isn't a conflict of interest that he hasn't been involved in.
> AJ: And he is the head of NM Rothschild.
> GP: There isn't anything that he doesn't have his fingers in. He's on
> something like fifty Boards. And one of the problems, he was supposed to
be
> head of the audit committee watching how Enron kept the books. And in
fact,
> they were paying him consulting fees on the side. He was in Margaret
> Thatcher's government and he's the one who authorized Enron to come into
> Britain and take over power plants here in Britain. And they owned a water
> system in the middle of England. This is what this guy approved and then
> they gave him a job on the board. And on top of being on the board, they
> gave him a huge consulting contract. So you know, this guy was supposed to
> be in charge of the audit committee to see how they were handling their
> accounts.
> AJ: Well, he is also the head of the board to regulate the media.
> GP: Yes, he is, because I have run into real problems, because he
regulates
> me.
> AJ: They are also trying to pass laws in England where you've got an
> 800-year old well, or in some cases a 2000-year old well that the Romans
> built that's on your property and they say we are putting a meter on it.
You
> can't have your own water.
> GP: Yea, and that's Lord Wakeham. I mean this is the guy from Enron. He is
a
> real piece of work. He can't be touched here because like I say he
actually
> regulates the media. So if you complain, he's got his hand on your pen.
> AJ: Burrow into NM Rothschild, you'll find it all there. Go through these
> four points. I mean you've got the documents. The IMF/World Bank
implosion,
> four points, how they bring down a country and destroy the resources of
the
> people.
> GP: Right. First you open up the capital markets. That is, you sell off
your
> local banks to foreign banks. Then you go to what's called market-based
> pricing. That's the stuff like in California where everything is free
market
> and you end up with water bills - we can't even imagine selling off water
> companies in the United States of America. But imagine if a private
company
> like Enron owned your water. So then the prices go through the roof. Then
> open up your borders to trade - complete free marketeering. And Stiglitz
who
> was the chief economist, remember he was running this system, he was their
> numbers man and he was saying it was like the opium wars. He said this
isn't
> free trade; this is coercion trade. This is war. They are taking apart
> economies through this.
> AJ: Well look, China has a 40% tariff on us, we have a 2% on them. That's
> not free and fair trade. It's to force all industry to a country that the
> globalists fully control.
> GP: Well, you know Walmart - I did a story, in fact, if you read my book.
> Let me just mention that I've got a book out, "The Best Democracy Money
Can
> Buy" about how, unfortunately, America has been put up for sale. "The Best
> Democracy Money Can Buy" is coming out this week. But I have a story in
> there about how Walmart has 700 plants in China. There is almost nothing
in
> a Walmart store that comes from the United States of America, despite all
> the eagles on the wall.
> AJ: Exactly, like 1984, then they have big flags saying "Buy American" and
> there's hardly anything --- it's Orwellian double-think.
> GP: What's even worst is they will hire a factory and right next to it
will
> be the sister factory which is inside a prison. You can imagine the
> conditions of these workers producing this lovely stuff for Walmart. It's
> really....
> AJ: And if an elitist needs a liver, they just call.
> GP: (Laughs) I know, it's grim. In fact, I talked to a guy, Harry Wu, is
his
> name and, in fact, he broke into, he's been in Chinese prison for 19
years.
> No one believed his horrible stories. He actually broke back into prison,
> took a camera with him and took pictures of the conditions and said this
is
> the conditions of factories where Walmart is getting its stuff made at,
it's
> all....
> AJ: I was threatened to be thrown off TV here in Austin when I aired video
> of little girls 4-years old chained down, skinnier than Jews in
> concentration camps, to die. And I was threatened, if you ever air that
> again, you will be arrested.
> GP: Well you know, it is horrifying stuff that, unfortunately, I have been
> handed and Stiglitz, was very courageous for him to come out and make
these
> statements. Like I said, he didn't provide me the documents. The documents
> really sealed it because it said this is what really happened. They really
> do say sign on the dotted line agreeing to 111 conditions for each nation.
> And the public has no say; they don't know what the hell is happening to
> them. All they know....
> AJ: Go back into privatization. Go through these four points. That's the
> key. It sends billions to politicians to hand everything over.
> GP: Yea, he called it briberization, which is you sell off the water
company
> and that's worth, over ten years, let's say that that's worth about 5
> billion bucks, ten percent of that is 500 million, you can figure out how
it
> works. I actually spoke to a Senator from Argentina two weeks ago. I got
him
> on camera. He said that after he got a call from George W. Bush in 1988
> saying give the gas pipeline in Argentina to Enron, that's our current
> president. He said that what he found was really creepy was that Enron was
> going to pay one-fifth of the world's price for their gas and he said how
> can you make such an offer? And he was told, not by George W. but by a
> partner in the deal, well if we only pay one-fifth that leaves quit a
little
> bit for you to go in your Swiss bank account. And that's how it's done.
> AJ: This is the ....
> GP: I've got the film. This guy is very conservative. He knows the Bush
> family very well. And he was public works administrator in Argentina and
he
> said, yea, I got this call. I asked him, I said, from George W. Bush. He
> said, yea, November 1988, the guy called him up and said give a pipeline
to
> Enron. Now this is the same George W. Bush who said he didn't get to know
> Ken Lay until 1994. So, you know.....
> AJ: So now they are having these white-wash hearings. You know I was at
> Enron yesterday in Houston because I'm now here in Austin. We were like
> 30-feet from the door, right on the sidewalk and I have it on video -
goons
> came up and said you can't videotape. I said go ahead and have me
arrested.
> I mean I'm talking on the sidewalk, Greg.
> GP: Well, you know, I was there in May, telling people in Britain you've
> never heard of Enron, but ... And these are the guys who have figured out
> how to (garbled) this government. In fact, we saw some interesting
> documents, a month before Bush took office, Bill Clinton, I think to get
> even with Bush's big donor, cut Enron out of the California power market.
He
> put a cap on the prices they could charge. They couldn't charge more than
> one-hundred times the normal price for electricity. That upset Enron. So
Ken
> Lay personally wrote a note to Dick Cheney saying get rid of Clinton's cap
> on prices. Within 48 hours of George W. Bush taking office, his energy
> department reversed the clamps on Enron. OK, how much is that worth for
> those guys. You know that has got to be worth, that paid off in a week all
> the donations.
> AJ: Listen at the bombs you are dropping. You are interviewing these
> ministers, former head of IMF/World Bank economist - all of this, you've
got
> the documents, paying people's Swiss Bank accounts, all this happening.
Then
> you've got Part 2, what do they do after they start imploding?
> GP: Well, then they tell you to start cutting your budgets. A fifth of the
> population of Argentina is unemployed, and they said cut the unemployment
> benefits drastically, take away pension funds, cut the education budgets,
I
> mean horrible things. Now if you cut the economy in the middle of a
> recession that was created by these guys, you are really going to
absolutely
> demolish this nation. After we were attacked on September 11, Bush ran out
> and said we got to spend $50 to $100 billion dollars to save our economy.
We
> don't start cutting the budget, you start trying to save this economy. But
> they tell these countries you've got to cut, and cut, and cut. And why,
> according to the inside documents, it's so you can make payments to
foreign
> banks - the foreign banks are collecting 21% to 70% interest. This is
> loan-sharking. If fact, it was so bad that they required Argentina to get
> rid of the laws against loan-sharking. because any bank would be a
> loan-shark under Argentine law.
> AJ: But Greg, you said it yourself and the documents show it. They first
> implode the economy to create that atmosphere. They institute the entire
> climate that does this.
> GP: Yea, and then they say, well gee, we can't lend you any money except
at
> these loan-shark rates. We don't allow people to charge 75% interest in
the
> United States. That's loan-sharking.
> AJ: Part 3 and Part 4. What do they do after they do that?
> GP: Like I said, you open up the borders for trade, that's the new opium
> wars. And once you have destroyed an economy that can't produce anything,
> one of the terrible things is that they are forcing nations to pay
> horrendous amounts for things like drugs - legal drugs. And by the way,
> that's how you end up with an illegal drug trade, what's there left to
> survive on except sell us smack and crack and that's how...
> AJ: And the same CIA national security dictatorship has been caught
shipping
> that in.
> GP: You know, we are just helping our allies.
> AJ: This is just amazing. And so, drive the whole world down, blow out
their
> economies and then buy the rest of it up for pennies on the dollar. What's
> Part 4 of the IMF/World Bank Plan?
> GP: Well, in Part 4, you end up again with the taking apart of the
> government. And by the way, the real Part 4 is the coup d'etat. That's
what
> they are not telling you. And I'm just finding that out in Venezuela. I
just
> got a call from the President of Venezuela.
> AJ: And they install their own corporate government.
> GP: What they said was here you've got an elected president of the
> government and the IMF has announced, listen to this, that they would
> support a transition government if the president were removed. They are
not
> saying that they are going to get involved in politics - they would just
> support a transition government. What that effectively is is saying we
will
> pay for the coup d'etat, if the military overthrows the current president,
> because the current president of Venezuela has said no to the IMF. He told
> those guys to go packing. They brought their teams in and said you have to
> do this and that. And he said, I don't have to do nothing. He said what
I'm
> going to do is, I'm going to double the taxes on oil corporations because
we
> have a whole lot of oil in Venezuela. And I'm going to double the taxes on
> oil corporations and then I will have all the money I need for social
> programs and the government - and we will be a very rich nation. Well, as
> soon as they did that, they started fomenting trouble with the military
and
> I'm telling you watch this space: the President of Venezuela will be out
of
> office in three months or shot dead. They are not going to allow him to
> raise taxes on the oil companies.
> AJ: Greg Palast, here is the problem. You said it when you first came out
of
> the gates. They are getting hungry, they are doing it to the United States
> now. Enron, from all the evidence that I've seen was a front, another
shill,
> they would steal assets and then transfer it to other older global
> companies, then they blew that out and stole the pension funds. Now they
are
> telling us that terrorism is coming any day. It's going to happen if you
> don't give your rights up. Bush did not involve Congress and the others
who
> are supposed to be in the accession if there is a nuclear attack in the
> secret government, Washington Post -"Congress Not Advised of Shadow
> Government." We have the Speaker of the House not being told. This looks
> like coup d'etat here. I'm going to come right out with it. We had better
> spread the word on this now or these greedy creatures are going to go all
> the way.
> GP: I'm very sad about one thing. I report this story in the main stream
> press of Britian. I'm on the BBC despite Lord Wakeham. I know he doesn't
> like me there. I'm in the BBC, I'm in the main daily paper, which is the
> equivalent of the New York Times or whatever, and we do get the
information
> out. And I'm just very sorry that we have to have an alternative press, an
> alternative radio network and everything else to get out the information
> that makes any sense. I mean this information should be available to every
> American. I mean, after all, it's our government.
> http://www.infowars.com/palast.htm
>
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