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[Disarmo] Obama to send weapons to Ukraine - b-antinato Digest Number 6783

Non solo Cameron: ora si muove apertamente anche Obama. Ma a noi spiegano che è Putin il guerrafondaio, dalla Rai al Manifesto.
''President Barack Obama to send weapons to Ukraine’s government despite objections by Germany and other key European allies.
Any decision to send more sophisticated weaponry to Ukraine will require greater collaboration between the U.S. and Ukraine to ensure troops can manage those systems in the field. 

What would such a move mean for U.S. troops?
“I think they have several options. They could send troops to Ukraine to have U.S. forces involved, or they could bring Ukraine’s [troops] back to the U.S. to train on those systems,” said Sim Tack, a military analyst with the Texas-based intelligence and advisory firm STRATFOR.
The amount of time and number of U.S. personnel required to conduct the training will largely depend on what type of systems would be deployed.'' 


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Oggetto: [b-antinato] Digest Number 6783
Data: 25 Feb 2015 11:31:41 -0000
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There are 5 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. NATO Expands Military Buildup In Eastern Europe
    From: Rick Rozoff

2. Colombia's Attorney General Demands Repeal Of NATO Agreement
    From: Rick Rozoff

3. NATO Partners, Democratic Allies: UAE Pledges Arms To Ukraine
    From: Rick Rozoff

4. U(S)N(ATO) Discusses Deploying Western Troops In Eastern Ukraine
    From: Rick Rozoff

5. Inching Toward War: U.S. Troops In Ukraine Or Ukrainian Troops In U.
    From: Rick Rozoff


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1. NATO Expands Military Buildup In Eastern Europe
    Posted by: "Rick Rozoff" rwrozoff at yahoo.com rwrozoff
    Date: Tue Feb 24, 2015 5:09 am ((PST))

http://www.setimes.com/cocoon/setimes/xhtml/en_GB/features/setimes/features/2015/02/23/feature-01


Southeast European Times
February 23, 2015


NATO expands presence in Eastern Europe
By Miki Trajkovski for Southeast European Times
Skopje: NATO's plan to open six new command centres in Eastern Europe is being hailed by Balkan experts as a sign that the region is not being ignored.
Defence ministers from the 28-member military Alliance agreed on February 5th to set up command and control units in Bulgaria, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland and Romania.
The move came "in the light of the changing security environment to the east and south of the Alliance's borders," a NATO statement said.
The new centres "in six of our eastern Allied countries" ensure that "we have the right forces, in the right place, at the right time," NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg said.
"Our decisions make clear that NATO is determined to defend all Allies against any threats from any direction," he added. 

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Experts have suggested that the new NATO centres are the result of the crisis in Ukraine, to show that NATO remains a strong supporter and protector of its allies in these parts of Europe.
According to Romanian Foreign Minister Bogdan Aurescu, NATO may launch a new command and control centre on a division level in two years in Romania.
Setting up permanent NATO and US military facilities, such as the anti-missile base at Deveselu and the new command centres, carries a major political message to Russia...
Events in Ukraine and the Middle East inevitably led to NATO's new strategic approach, said Pristina professor Behlul Beqaj.
"The entire geo-strategic situation has new moments that require new preventive solutions, and broad support from all potential partners, for their own safety, to be protected by NATO," he said.
This also sends a signal to the Islamic and Orthodox world to respect differences, he added.
Janev said NATO's presence can play an important role in curbing Russia's influence in the region. Integrating the Balkans is of strategic interest to NATO... 

Correspondent Paul Ciocoiu from Bucharest contributed to this report.
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2. Colombia's Attorney General Demands Repeal Of NATO Agreement
    Posted by: "Rick Rozoff" rwrozoff at yahoo.com rwrozoff
    Date: Tue Feb 24, 2015 5:12 am ((PST))

http://www.shanghaidaily.com/article/article_xinhua.aspx?id=269753


Xinhua News Agency
February 24, 2015


Colombia's Attorney General requests repealing NATO agreement
BOGOTA Colombia's Attorney General Office requested Monday the Constitutional Court to declare a cooperation agreement between Colombia and the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) unconstitutional due to privacy concerns.
The cooperation agreement, signed on June 25, 2013, was later endorsed by the Colombian Congress.
However, according to the country's Attorney General Office, it has a "highly problematic" content regarding the precise determination of information to be exchanged, with vague terms that can actually be contradictory to the country's constitution and the American Convention on Human Rights.
"Given that the agreement text does not clearly distinguish the type of information included within the generic term 'classified information', the information could be personal and, in particular, sensitive, with the consequent problem of no communication to the holder," the public office said in the document sent to the Constitutional Court.
NATO, a major Western military bloc created in 1949, constitutes a system of mutual defense whereby its current 28 member states across Europe and North America agree to mutual defense in response to an attack by any external party. 
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3. NATO Partners, Democratic Allies: UAE Pledges Arms To Ukraine
    Posted by: "Rick Rozoff" rwrozoff at yahoo.com rwrozoff
    Date: Tue Feb 24, 2015 5:24 am ((PST))

http://en.interfax.com.ua/news/general/252223.html


Interfax-Ukraine
February 24, 2015


Poroshenko, UAE agree on arms deliveries – Kyiv
Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko has met with Abu Dhabi Crown Prince, Deputy Supreme Commander of the UAE Armed Forces Mohammed bin Zayed bin Sultan Al Nahyan, Ukrainian parliament deputy, advisor to the Ukrainian interior minister Anton Heraschenko said.
"The sides agreed on cooperation with the United Arab Emirates in the delivery of certain types of armaments and military hardware to Ukraine. As you understand, types and scopes of the deliveries cannot be disclosed on Facebook," Heraschenko wrote on his Facebook page. 

The Ukrainian president is paying an official visit to the UAE.
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4. U(S)N(ATO) Discusses Deploying Western Troops In Eastern Ukraine
    Posted by: "Rick Rozoff" rwrozoff at yahoo.com rwrozoff
    Date: Tue Feb 24, 2015 9:17 am ((PST))

http://www.ukrinform.ua/eng/news/un_discusses_possibility_of_peacekeepers_deployment_in_ukraine_329284


Ukrinform
February 24, 2015


UN discusses possibility of peacekeepers deployment in Ukraine
KYIV: Discussion on the possibility of a peacekeeping mission in Ukraine took place at the UN headquarters at night, on February 24, according to Ukrainian news broadcaster TSN.
Ukrainian Foreign Minister Pavlo Klimkin said about Ukraine's intention to invite the peacekeeping mission to Donbass during the Security Council's open debates. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon and the foreign ministers participated in these debates. From today, the UN will seek ways to implement Kyiv's peace initiatives. In addition, Klimkin said about Russian aggression during the debates. If Moscow is making no effort to stop the pro-Russian rebels in Donbas, Kyiv will look for all possible ways to stop the violence.
The Ukrainian Foreign Minister met with the UN Secretary General, with whom he discussed the possible ways of establishment of the UN peacekeeping mission. It will not be an ordinary peacekeeping mission, as in this case, Ukraine will lose the right to determine the composition and powers of the contingent. Ukraine intends to appeal to its partners from the European Union for the formation of this mission. Proposal for approval of the mission will be submitted to the Security Council. Russia has already made a statement in which it condemns the idea of a peacekeeping mission. But if Moscow will try to oppose this in the Security Council, the proposal will be submitted to the General Assembly.
Immediately after the debates Klimkin flew to Paris for a meeting of the foreign ministers of the "Normandy Four." 
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5. Inching Toward War: U.S. Troops In Ukraine Or Ukrainian Troops In U.
    Posted by: "Rick Rozoff" rwrozoff at yahoo.com rwrozoff
    Date: Tue Feb 24, 2015 12:45 pm ((PST))

http://www.stripes.com/news/us-inching-toward-sending-arms-to-ukraine-1.331182


Stars and Stripes
February 23, 2015



US inching toward sending arms to Ukraine
By John Vandiver
The U.S. and Britain on Saturday discussed new sanctions against Russia as Ukraine's week-old cease-fire unravels, though it was unclear if the allies were on the same page about increasing pressure on an economy that means far more to Europe.
The failure of a European-brokered ceasefire to put an end to the fighting in eastern Ukraine is likely to increase pressure on President Barack Obama to send weapons to Ukraine’s government despite objections by Germany and other key European allies.
Any decision to send more sophisticated weaponry to Ukraine will require greater collaboration between the U.S. and Ukraine to ensure troops can manage those systems in the field. 

What would such a move mean for U.S. troops?
“I think they have several options. They could send troops to Ukraine to have U.S. forces involved, or they could bring Ukraine’s [troops] back to the U.S. to train on those systems,” said Sim Tack, a military analyst with the Texas-based intelligence and advisory firm STRATFOR.
The amount of time and number of U.S. personnel required to conduct the training will largely depend on what type of systems would be deployed.
Another option could be bringing in contractors to carry out a portion of the training, Tack said.
While the Obama administration hasn’t specified the type of weapons being considered, key figures – including Secretary of State John Kerry and newly appointed Defense Secretary Ashton Carter – have indicated support for sending defensive arms to Ukraine.
Earlier this month, an independent report by several former administration officials called on the White House to send a range of arms to Ukraine. Among the report’s recommendations were anti-armor missiles, light armor vehicles, surveillance drones and communication systems. Those making the recommendations included Michèle Flournoy, a former top Pentagon official who was on the shortlist to replace Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel, and retired Adm. James Stavridis, former military commander of NATO and U.S. European Command. 

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Anti-armor missiles, such as the Javelin system, are fairly simple to operate, according to Tack.
“You can give people the short version or the long versions,” he said of the training. “You can technically teach them to use that (Javelin system) in a single training session.”
On the battlefield, such weapons would be a boost for Ukrainian forces, though the degree of effectiveness would depend on the size of the weapon delivery and how spread out it could be deployed among Ukrainian forces.
“Anti-armor missiles would give Ukrainians a much better capacity to fight weapon armor, which is something they’ve been facing heavily in the conflict recently,” Tack said.
Other systems, such as drones to track the movement of separatists, would require more detailed training and longer-lasting training support, he said. Still, there are other, more pressing, challenges than providing weapons for Ukrainian forces.
“I think an important thing to point out is a lot of these things [weapons] are not necessarily the biggest problem for Ukraine,” Tack said. “The main challenge Ukraine faces militarily is [lack of] manpower and financing.”
It also isn’t clear whether the weapons systems would in any way alter the balance on the battlefield...
Concern that new weapons would not tip the scales against the Russians is at the heart of Germany’s opposition. Berlin fears new weapons would only encourage the Russians to become more deeply engaged. 

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Others, such as U.S. Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., a supporter of arming Ukraine, argue the weapons would raise the costs for Russia.
“Some say Ukraine cannot defeat Russia militarily. That is the wrong question. The right question is: If we help Ukrainians increase the military cost to the Russian forces that have invaded their country, how long can Putin sustain a war that he tells his people is not happening?” McCain said during the same conference.
For now, Obama has worked to remain in step with Merkel and other allies in Europe, resisting calls to send arms and remaining unified on sanctions against Moscow. That could change, however, if conditions in eastern Ukraine continue to deteriorate.
“If there is no actual truce and no actual end to violence, then I think that is a likely step for the U.S.,” Tack said. 

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