On Syrira, 06/08/12 - R. Rozoff

Interview: Can U.S. And Allies Arbitrarily Violate International Law 

    Posted by: "Rick Rozoff" rwrozoff at yahoo.com rwrozoff
    Date: Thu Aug 16, 2012 5:45 am ((PDT))


Voice of Russia
August 16, 2012

Can US and its allies arbitrarily violate international law?

John Robles
Recorded on August 6, 2012

Audio at URL above

Rick Rozoff discusses General Assembly resolutions on Syria and how the US
and its allies are circumventing standard procedure in order to win a
propaganda battle. "Everything that the West and its Persian Gulf allies
have done over the last seventeen months has worsened the situation,
[costing] more Syrian lives," Rozoff said.

This is part 3 of the interview with Rick Rozoff, the manager of the Stop
NATO website and mailing list.

(part 1, 2 on site - see links above) 

What do you make about Kofi Annan´s sudden, I don´t know how
unexpected it was for those in the know, but it was unexpected for many,
to see Kofi Annan all of a sudden decide not to renew his mandate?

Which was to have expired at the end of this month.

It didn´t surprise me. I would just tell you frankly, I believe that his
stepping down was coordinated with the introduction of the resolution in
the General Assembly, which was introduced by the current
Secretary-General - Kofi Annan´s successor, Ban Ki-moon - who lambasted
the Syrian government, made comparisons to Rwanda and Bosnia in the 1990s
as though suggesting that what happened in Syria was a replication of the
precedents I mentioned. 

And again, you know, poisoned the well, or prejudiced the vote by his
comments. We have to recollect that Kofi Annan himself would never have
been Secretary-General of the UN if then-U.S. representative to the UN,
the Secretary of State later, Madeleine Albright hadn´t single-handedly
rammmed through his nomination and secured his position at the expense of
Boutros Boutros-Ghali who was running for reelection for that position.

So, Kofi Annan was the U.S.´s man in the United Nations for two terms.
And if anything I was rather surprised he hadn´t tipped his hand earlier
in terms of supporting the West´s position. But you know, in fact he did
to some extent at the Geneva meeting of the so-called Action Group, where
there were different interpretations of what came out. There was
Russia´s and China´s, for example, and there was his, which intimated
or stated I think even more explicitly that Bashar Assad had to step down
as president and the government had to cede power to some sort of
coalition. So, it doesn´t surprise me in the least. I think these events
were coordinated and then the fact that he received a guest editorial in
the Financial Times, the morning of the General Assembly vote, as I
recollect last Friday, explaining his position all seems to be a fairly
coordinated campaign.

What do you think about: several Russia officials made statements that the
resolution actually served to worsen the situation in Syria?

Yes, it does. And everything that the West and its Persian Gulf allies
have done over the last seventeen months has worsened the situation, cost
more Syrian lives, led to the further destabilization, in many ways made
irreparable damage to the nation of Syria, which one would now have to
assume is the intent. For example Vitaly Churkin also said after the vote
last Friday [August 3, 2012] that to take the vote to the General Assembly
while the Security Council was still deliberating on the Syrian issue was
a violation of the United Nations Charter.

So, the U.S. and its allies have again circumvented the standard procedure
in order to win a propaganda battle, but a propaganda battle that will
continue as we were just talking about with the escalation in the loss of
Syrian lives as a result. The West and its Saudi allies and Qatari allies
will sacrifice the life of every last Syrian if they accomplish their
geopolitical objectives, which are not only regime change in Damascus,
it's also to prolong the perceived isolation of Russia and China. That´s
the significance of this vote last Friday more than anything else.

Syria is much more the pretext than the actual issue being discussed,
because what is at issue right now is whether the U.S. and its allies can
arbitrarily violate international law, whether they can subvert the
concepts of the territorial integrity and national sovereignty of states,
whether somebody sitting in the State Department can determine who has to
step down as head of state and who is going to replace him. And the U.S.
has done this on a least four occasions since early last year. I´m
talking about Ivory Coast, Libya, Yemen and now Syria. And there is every
reason to believe that if they are successful in Syria, then they would
move on to the next countries. And I would suggest that the twelve
countries that voted against the resolution on Friday are exactly the
twelve countries that are going to be targeted.

Can you list those countries for our listeners?

Yes. The twelve countries that voted against the resolution are Russia,
China, Syria, Iran, Belarus, Bolivia, Cuba, Myanmar, Nicaragua, North
Korea, Venezuela and Zimbabwe.

And you think all those countries are on a hit list for regime change?

Each except for Myanmar decidedly are. And I´m a bit surprised that the
former Burma, Myanmar, voted against the resolution as it had not voted
against the resolution in February.

Why do you think they did this?

I have no idea. I would have thought that since Hillary Clinton´s visit
to Myanmar last November that she had pretty much shifted Myanmar away
from China and towards the United States. So, frankly I have no
explanation for why they voted against the resolution unless they sensed
something. If you´d asked me a year ago it would have been self-evident
why Myanmar voted against it, because it itself was targeted for regime
change at the time. 

Somebody has them on the checklist and I think it's important that they
not be able to make checks in each box. And if developments in Syria, that
is Western and allied efforts to overthrow the government in Syria, are
thwarted with the continued opposition of Russia and China in the first
place, then I don´t think we have to worry about the other eleven
nations, because of course Syria is one of them. But should they be
successful in Syria, then I think the remaining eleven nations are likely

Listen, one last question regarding Syria, which you just brought up
again. About a week ago it looked like Assad was all but finished. What do
you think Assad´s chances are, and the current Syrian government´s
chances are of staying in power?

Barring a direct foreign military intervention, I think better with each
passing day. The successful campaign to secure Damascus and now Aleppo,
the two largest cities in the country, has given the lie to the media
propaganda in the West, in the first place, about the fact that there was
no unity within the government, that the Syrian nation and people were
divided, that the government had no substantive support...

Yes, they were talking about everybody bailing out, that the high
officials saw no future, and after the assassination at the security

That´s a good point you raise. With the murder by a suicide bombing of
four leading officials of the government, including the Defense Minister
and the Deputy Defense Minister...

And the intelligence head I believe it was.

Yes. The reports in the West were that this is "the final nail in the
coffin", to quote Leon Panetta, the Pentagon chief, with the Syrian
government and it was only a matter of days if not hours before it fell
and so forth. And we´ve seen quite the reverse occur. We´ve seen the
government reestablish control over the capital of Damascus as well as
Aleppo. And basically what are going on now are mopping-up operations. And
it also demonstrates that the Syrian military is firmly in support of the

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